Comments on: What to Do When Your College Goes Liberal: Some Thoughts Regarding the Issue http://paulandtimothy.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/what-to-do-when-your-college-goes-liberal-some-thoughts-from-someone-whose-been-there/ working towards reform of pre-eldership ministry and training in the Church Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:46:11 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Kyle http://paulandtimothy.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/what-to-do-when-your-college-goes-liberal-some-thoughts-from-someone-whose-been-there/#comment-201 Kyle Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:28:08 +0000 http://paulandtimothy.wordpress.com/?p=585#comment-201 Great post. I've been thinking lately of how if there is no judgment of God then there's not much point in being a Christian period. To downplay the wrath of God and the reality of hell is to also downplay His great love and grace. Jesus didn't come questioning as liberalism does, He came preaching. Great post. I’ve been thinking lately of how if there is no judgment of God then there’s not much point in being a Christian period. To downplay the wrath of God and the reality of hell is to also downplay His great love and grace. Jesus didn’t come questioning as liberalism does, He came preaching.

]]> By: Karli http://paulandtimothy.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/what-to-do-when-your-college-goes-liberal-some-thoughts-from-someone-whose-been-there/#comment-199 Karli Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:19:48 +0000 http://paulandtimothy.wordpress.com/?p=585#comment-199 Thank you Carey, for saying what needs to be said and doing what needs to be done. When I stop and look all around me and see so much liberalism and the distortion of the truth, it makes me cry. We must be passionate and compasstionate for everyone around us, believers and no-believers. It all starts with compromises, little ones that just turn into even bigger ones sooner or later. Remember to pray constantly, that God's light would shine through us and would reach the world, but that the hearts of the world would be prepared by God's own hands. Thank you Carey, for saying what needs to be said and doing what needs to be done. When I stop and look all around me and see so much liberalism and the distortion of the truth, it makes me cry. We must be passionate and compasstionate for everyone around us, believers and no-believers. It all starts with compromises, little ones that just turn into even bigger ones sooner or later. Remember to pray constantly, that God’s light would shine through us and would reach the world, but that the hearts of the world would be prepared by God’s own hands.

]]> By: Eric http://paulandtimothy.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/what-to-do-when-your-college-goes-liberal-some-thoughts-from-someone-whose-been-there/#comment-193 Eric Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:02:58 +0000 http://paulandtimothy.wordpress.com/?p=585#comment-193 The law of the Lord is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple; the precepts of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes; the fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever; the rules of the Lord are ture, and righteous altogther. More to be desired are they than gold, even much fine gold; sweeter also than honey and drippings of the honeycomb. Moreover, by them is your servant warned; in keeping them there is great reward. Ps. 19:7-11 I love that we, in unison, say this beford God and each other at church every sunday...to lose the authority and love of the scriptures is the beginning of the end! Thanks for your insight Carey...THIS IS WISDOM! let it be a constant reminder of the work ahead. Here is a quote from John Sailhammer I read yesterday. He is explaining the differences of theology and revelation vs. theology and religion: "The point of departure between the two ideas is the question of whether the Bible is a record of God's revelation or of human religion. The consequence of the distinction in meaning is the question of authority. Does theology have a right to make claims about the normativity of its statements? does theology stand at one end of a special process begun by God, or is it a purely human enterprise? Can the theologian ever hope to say to the church, "Thus saith the Lord"?" The shifts are slight...a definition tweeked here, a statement regarding doctrine there until you are off the reservation! God Bless The law of the Lord is perfect, reviving the soul;
the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple;
the precepts of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart;
the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes;
the fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever;
the rules of the Lord are ture, and righteous altogther.
More to be desired are they than gold, even much fine gold;
sweeter also than honey and drippings of the honeycomb. Moreover, by them is your servant warned; in keeping them there is great reward.

Ps. 19:7-11

I love that we, in unison, say this beford God and each other at church every sunday…to lose the authority and love of the scriptures is the beginning of the end! Thanks for your insight Carey…THIS IS WISDOM! let it be a constant reminder of the work ahead.

Here is a quote from John Sailhammer I read yesterday. He is explaining the differences of theology and revelation vs. theology and religion:

“The point of departure between the two ideas is the question of whether the Bible is a record of God’s revelation or of human religion. The consequence of the distinction in meaning is the question of authority. Does theology have a right to make claims about the normativity of its statements? does theology stand at one end of a special process begun by God, or is it a purely human enterprise? Can the theologian ever hope to say to the church, “Thus saith the Lord”?”

The shifts are slight…a definition tweeked here, a statement regarding doctrine there until you are off the reservation!

God Bless

]]> By: Adam http://paulandtimothy.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/what-to-do-when-your-college-goes-liberal-some-thoughts-from-someone-whose-been-there/#comment-191 Adam Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:34:41 +0000 http://paulandtimothy.wordpress.com/?p=585#comment-191 amen Carey. Excellent post. Call me fundamentalist. You nailed it down the line. I'm frustrated. Keep blowing the trumpet and standing unashamedly on such core doctrines. Holiness gets you hated. The prophets were....killed. John the Baptist...beheaded. Jesus Christ....crucified. All of the Apostles (with 1 exception)....martyred. Elders...killed. Even their wives...killed. Deacons (Stephen)....killed. Missionaries...killed. See a pattern? It's a Calvary road. Should we expect different? "For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps." 1 Peter 2:21 Prepare for suffering brothers, defenders of the faith, proclaimers of righteousness and truth. Do not revile when reviled or threaten when threatened. Do not overcome evil with evil. amen Carey. Excellent post. Call me fundamentalist. You nailed it down the line. I’m frustrated. Keep blowing the trumpet and standing unashamedly on such core doctrines. Holiness gets you hated.

The prophets were….killed. John the Baptist…beheaded. Jesus Christ….crucified. All of the Apostles (with 1 exception)….martyred. Elders…killed. Even their wives…killed. Deacons (Stephen)….killed. Missionaries…killed.

See a pattern? It’s a Calvary road. Should we expect different?

“For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps.” 1 Peter 2:21

Prepare for suffering brothers, defenders of the faith, proclaimers of righteousness and truth. Do not revile when reviled or threaten when threatened. Do not overcome evil with evil.

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